I tied up this pattern to try out in the super shallow waters where you have weeds just below the surface.
The tie is pretty simple -- a bendback-style hook, estaz for the body, some mono eyes, and then the trick: a small triangle of thin foam tied in at the head (over the mono eyes), topped with some EP fiber for the wing.
The foam does two things -- first, it absolutely allows for the fly to orient properly (hook up), and second, it really slows down the drop of the fly in the water column. In fact, in many cases the fly will float for a second after casting. I have to move it a little to gets some air bubbles to release, and then the fly slowly drops .....
The foam is soft enough that I don't believe it will be in the way when a fish hits the fly (foam will compress easily).
Here are a couple samples I tied up. Let me know what you think -- only had 'em out once and didn't see any fish to test 'em on ....
Post by mangrovecuckoo on Sept 24, 2016 14:56:33 GMT -5
Interesting idea ap!
Thats the fun of tying your own flies... you can do whatever ya want... and then see if it works... or not.
Let us know how the experiments work out.
I love the advantages of a bendback pattern. I just don't like how I seem to miss so many hook ups with them. Specifically, for me, they almost don't work at all for small tarpon.
Recently I was trying out a bendback / clouser variation and got into a bunch of small tarpon. They loved the fly... got multiple hits on a few casts... and had zero complete hook ups. It almost seemed like it was pissing the little poons off. They absolutely tore it up, but not one stayed on after the first jump.
Mangrove: Well, trout seem to like the fly OK; got a couple on it yesterday. But I did notice the foam really stands out on the fly, and the EP Fiber wing tends to go translucent in the water -- not the best profile. I think now I might to the fly with deer-hair or craft-fur for the wing -- something a little more opaque in the water.
I have heard that about bendbacks and tarpon, but I have to tell you, the biggest tarpon I ever caught on fly (estimate 50-60lbs) was on a #1 bendback. Had been throwing up against the mangroves for reds/snook, and this guy presented himself ... thought no way would he hit the fly .... BAM!!! 1st big jump -- no way do I stay hooked up ..... 6 jumps later, still fighting the fish. Got him to boat-side, retrieved the fly and it was stuck right in the top of the mouth, the sweet spot for good hook-ups. Fly was bent, however almost 45degrees! Got really lucky ....
I was really designing this fly for super-shallow reds where you don't want to get hung up on bottom. Waiting for a chance to see how the fly works in that situation ....
Post by mangrovecuckoo on Sept 28, 2016 18:36:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I hear ya about the synthetics being too translucent sometimes. I played with some articulated foam head surface "creations" and used synthetics for the tail. In the water all I could see was the foam head... not what I was hoping for... experiment fail!
And yes too... I think bendbacks hook fish well enough as long as the fish inhales the whole fly inside their mouth... like trout and snook tend to do. That 60# tarpon probably had no problem getting his mouth around your bendback. The little poons I was irritating were in the 5# class, and the fly was around 3". The same fly got a lot of attention from shoreline snapper... again little nippers... never hooked one. Switched to a simple small streamer and... dinner!
Super shallow reds... man for me thats Seaducer time. I have a thing for fishing the old classics.